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Showing posts with label gun legislation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label gun legislation. Show all posts

Sunday, 14 September 2014

Gun Laws Australia. To satisfy their conceit, they manipulate statistics to suit themselves and pretend that “the science is settled”.

Image courtesy of the late Dr R.A.F. Gilbert of Falkirk Scotland.

The Australian government is so inadequate in its appraisal of gun legislation that it requires permit to purchase, registration, and licensing for flintlocks, wheel-locks and matchlock muzzle-loading guns, rifles and pistols. 


Sunday, 30 December 2012

Self Defense Laws NSW.

I was told many years ago by the police that in order to defend myself with a gun, I must already have been shot. This meant that (a) I was defending myself against an aggressor using a gun, and (b) he had already fired at me and hit me. Their reasoning was that I needed proof that my life was in danger, and that I had no alternative but to use a gun in my defense. I was about 30 years of age then, so my age may have had some bearing in a self-defense issue. I am no longer a young man, and it seems this does carry some weight when defending yourself in court regarding the shooting of a person in self-defense. I here enclose information on the legality of self-defense in NSW Australia. 


Self defence law NSW
In any assault type offence you can raise self defence as an issue in your case. If the court accepts that you were acting in self defence, the court will dismiss the charge against you. If you are going to defend a case relying on self defence you need to know the law relating to self defence. The self defence laws in NSW are  found in Part 11 Division 3 of the Crimes Act 1900.
Section 418 of the Crimes Act 1900 outlines when self defence is available.
(1) A person is not criminally responsible for an offence if the person carries out the conduct constituting the offence in self-defence.
(2) A person carries out conduct in self-defence if and only if the person believes the conduct is necessary:
·         to defend himself or herself or another person, or
·         to prevent or terminate the unlawful deprivation of his or her liberty or the liberty of another person, or
·         to protect property from unlawful taking, destruction, damage or interference, or
·         to prevent criminal trespass to any land or premises or to remove a person committing any such criminal trespass,
and the conduct is a reasonable response in the circumstances as he or she perceives them.
Raising self defence and who has to prove what
An accused only needs to raise self defence as an issue in their case. The prosecution then has to prove that the accused was not acting in self defence beyond a reasonable doubt.
The prosecution must show either:
·         That the accused did not genuinely believe that it was necessary to act as he or she did in his or her own defence or;
·         That what the accused did was not a reasonable response to the danger, as he or she perceived it to be.
More detailed information about the self defence laws in NSW
The information contained below involves complex legal principles. If you do not have a good knowledge of the law you may have difficulty understanding the principles. If you need assistance, please call or email us.
R v Kirstain William Katarzynski
Facts for a defence of self defence
The deceased was shot by the accused three times to the torso at a Hotel in Liverpool. There was no issue that the accused committed the act which caused the death of the deceased. The prosecution conceded that there was a real possibility that when the accused shot the deceased he was acting in his own self defence.
Principles for a defence of self defence
There are two questions to be answered by the Court when self defence is raised.
·         Is there is a reasonable possibility that the accused believed that his or her conduct was necessary in order to defend himself or herself; and,
·         If there is, is there also a reasonable possibility that what the accused did was a reasonable response to the circumstances as he or she perceived them.
The first question is determined by a completely subjective point of view considering the personal characteristics of the accused at the time they carried out the conduct.
The second question is determined by an entirely objective assessment of the proportionality of the accused’s response to the situation the accused subjectively believed they faced.
The accused need not have reasonable grounds for their belief that it was necessary to act in the way they did in order to defend themselves as the common law required. It is sufficient if the accused genuinely holds that belief.
The jury is not assessing the response of the reasonable person but the response of the accused. In making that assessment it is obvious than some of the personal attributes of the accused will be relevant just as will be some of the surrounding physical circumstances in which the accused acted. So matters such as the age of the accused, his or her gender, or the state of his or her health may be regarded by the jury.
Intoxication is only relevant to an assessment of the belief held by the accused as to what conduct was necessary in his self defence and as to the circumstances perceived by the accused (The first question)
One matter that must be irrelevant to an assessment of the reasonableness of the accused's response (second question) is his or her state of sobriety.


Friday, 25 May 2012

To all those interested in the ridiculous "Ammo Bill"...

Well..... just when we thought this stupid "Ammo Bill" could get no worse, we received a tip-off
that the Firearms Registry were in panic mode altering the Permits to Acquire forms as a result of an....errrr...
...."error" (?) in the drafting of the Bill. (See Borsak's Question without Notice, and the Police Minister's dismissive  reply below)
The Bill contains a provision whereby a Permit-to-Acquire ( PTA) can be used as evidence that you "intend" to purchase
a firearm, and therefore satisfies the proof needed to buy ammunition for that calibre/cartridge.
Who-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-psssss
PTAs don't currently have any designated firearm listed, just the category.
So now, the clever people at the Registry, intend to require that you SPECIFY what you will buy !!!
Not one of these people has ever gone through the process of buying a firearm, particularly a new firearm,
in a firearms dealership with HUNDREDS of firearms on display.
The stupid "28 day" PTA bullshit is bad enough as it is. You MAY or may not have chosen a particular individual rifle,
but more often, you just know that you want a particular Category, but at the time you actually have your PTA,
you may well have missed the sale, changed your mind, seen a better deal, or otherwise be flexible as to what you will buy.
Then we have the second-hand market, and the various on-line sites that abound. In those cases, most shooters get the
PTA first, then take the 60 days available to hunt for a "deal".
Under what is now proposed, you will need to specify calibre and cartridge when you lodge the PTA.......
and if you change your mind, that means another $30, another PTA.... and probably another 28 days.
YOUR letters , and YOUR pressure on the marginal Liberals, and all the Nats, has definitely got the Government
into the "delay" mode.
Particularly now that Richard Torbay and Greg Piper have made it clear to the Government that they will "force" a
recording of the votes....thus exposing all the big-noting Nats that are.... errr... "threatening" to cross the floor".

So please..... if any of you 5,200 souls on this newsletter list, haven't yet emailed, phoned, or better
still...visited....your Local Member, please, please....

........do it NOW.

Robert Brown Robert.Brown@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Friday, 18 May 2012

Conrad Hawkwood said... and my reply.

Conrad Hawkwood said...
good idea too many guns around as it is..

I can understand your comment Conrad, though I think it misplaced. You obviously have a downer on guns and I can assume that you are not a gun owner yourself. However, there are legitimate uses for guns, for sport target shooting, for historical reenactment, Living History, and ferral pest erradication. The use of the gun in the latter instance reduces the use of poisons, & therefore benefits the environment & saves native animals.
Government gun laws are not designed to reduce guns in the hands of criminals, they do not hamper criminals. Criminals have no gun license & totally ignore gun laws. Only we legitimate gun owners pay the price for ineffective firearms legislation. I am definately pro gun legislation if it will hamper the criminal use of firearms.
What we need is higher penalties for the misuse of firearms. Do you honestly think that banning the ownership if a single barrel single shot flintlock muzzle-loading gun will hamper any criminals?!!! Think about it in a sensible way Conrad, don't be taken in by legislation simply made to gain your vote in the next ellection. Lobby for stricter penalties for the misuse of firearms, fines, imprisonment, loss of firearms & loss of licence. But this will only effect the morons in our communities, it will have little effect on criminals, nothing will.
If the criminals have guns, & we do not Conrad, where do you seriously think that will take us? I am alive today because I legally own a gun, otherwise there is a good chance I would not be here. Do you think you have the right to deny me my life & the ability to defend my family just because you don't like guns?
Sincere regards, Keith H. Burgess.
NECLHG.
ALHF.
ALHO.

Wednesday, 16 May 2012

The Firearms amendment ( Ammunition Control) Bill 2012.

Dear Sir, I am contacting you to ask you to vote against The Firearms amendment ( Ammunition Control) Bill 2012. This will impact on legitimate gun owners in the country. This may also have further implications. By the wording of this bill it implies that registration is ownership. Does this mean that if anything happens to me that my family will no longer have control of our firearms?
This sort of legislation will have no effect on criminals, this is just another move to get votes & we legitimate gun owners are the ones to pay the price. You are surely smart enough to see that this sort of legislation will not stop gun crime. What is needed it heavier penalties for crimes committed, not more & more legislation that makes it harder & harder for legitimate gun owners.
Very sincerely, Keith H. Burgess.

northerntablelands@parliament.nsw.gov.au

This legislation if it goes through will mean that my wife, a licensed gun owner, will no longer be able to purchase ammunition without paying a $30.00 fee for a permit to purchase! This legislation implies that my wife no longer ownes her own gun, because I was the one to register it!!! Think about this, they are coming in the back door again! Please write your local member & ask them to vote against this legislation before it is too late, whether you are a gun owner or not.
Regards, Keith.


Here is the link to your local member: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentMembers

Friday, 11 May 2012

FIREARMS AMENDMENT (AMMUNITION CONTROL) BILL 2012

FIREARMS AMENDMENT (AMMUNITION CONTROL) BILL 2012
The Hon. ROBERT BROWN [9.08 p.m.]: I refer to the Firearms Amendment (Ammunition Control) Bill 2012, and attendant the regulation, which was passed by this House yesterday in a filthy deal between the Coalition and The Greens to do over the law-abiding firearms owners of this State. Shooters should be concerned about this new attack on shooters by the Liberals and, by default, The Nationals and The Greens. This regulation is simply a new tax of $30 on each person who now needs to apply for a permit to buy ammunition. There was no need for this regulation because there was no need for the bill. Observant members might have noticed that the regulation was dated 27 March 2012. Apparently this little fiasco was held over until yesterday to hide it behind the Federal budget media coverage. Every government acts in that way—Labor and Coalition. They dump out bad news or play politics on budget day; this Government is no different.
This regulation provides for persons holding a firearms licence to apply for a $30 ammunition permit to allow them to purchase ammunition for a firearm they are licensed to use but that is not registered to them when the person is a member of the same household as a person who has a firearm of that calibre licensed to them; or the person is employed or engaged by a person who has a firearm of that calibre licensed to them, and it is part of the first person's duties to purchase ammunition for that firearm. The regulation also provides a general power for the commissioner to issue an ammunition permit in other circumstances. The regulation provides a way for employees to purchase ammunition for a work firearm and a way for members of a household to purchase ammunition for firearms owned by other household members.
But enough of what the Government claims the regulation does do. What it does not address are the problems that will be caused, for example, when a licensed person borrows a firearm with a calibre and they do not already own a firearm with that calibre from a person who is not a member of their household and wishes to purchase ammunition for it, when a person who is driving to a remote property to hunt offers to bring ammunition with them for firearms owned by the property owner, when a licensed person who is a parent of a minor wishes to purchase ammunition for their child to use in a borrowed firearm that is of a different calibre to any the parent has registered to them, when a licensed person who chooses not to own a firearm borrows one for hunting or target shooting, or myriad other situations that have been identified to the Government but ignored.
In what appears to be something straight from Yes, Minister, the regulation imposes an additional $30 permit fee to allow already licensed persons to purchase ammunition that they are already authorised to possess under the conditions of their firearms licence. It imposes more work on the Firearms Registry, taking more money from the Police budget for administration, which means there is less available for policing. This raises questions about further costs to shooters. Will an additional $30 be required each time a member of a shooter's household purchases a firearm in an additional calibre and the permit must be amended? That is what happens to firearms owners. We were told that this bill was needed to address the drive-by shootings in Sydney's south-west.
The Hon. Dr Peter Phelps: I didn't say that.
The Hon. ROBERT BROWN: That is true. This legislation does not address drive-by shootings. If the Government thinks it does, I would like to be provided with the supporting information by the police Minister or the Attorney General demonstrating that they are right and I am wrong. I do not think they will do that because they know this legislation is a political stunt rather than a genuine attempt to stop criminals shooting at each other's houses. This Liberal-Nationals Government will have to live with the fact that it is prepared to deal with The Greens on firearms legislation rather than talk to shooters, or even their own firearms consultative committee. It would have been sensible to do that before introducing the legislation.
I do not think the Premier listens to his Nationals Coalition colleagues on this issue. I assure members that we in the Shooters and Fishers Party will be making that clear to people in the bush. The Shooters and Fishers Party no longer believes the Government is prepared to deal in good faith about firearms issues. We will ensure that all licensed firearms owners are aware of this new paradigm of a Liberal-Greens coalition with regard to firearms decisions that the Premier seems to think will work for him. The Shooters and Fishers Party disagrees. In fact, we wish him good luck—and he will need it if he is metaphorically getting into bed with The Greens.
Shooters and Fishers Party
PO Box 376 Baulkham Hills NSW 1755
Tel: (02) 9686 2396
Web: http://www.shootersandfishers.org.au/
My thanks to Deerslayer for this informatiom.

Thursday, 23 February 2012

Please Sign This Petition.

We have already lost the right to legally own single shot flintlock muzzle-loading pistols outside of a pistol club! Don't let the government take any more from us. Please go to the link provided here and sign the petition.
Thank you.
Regards, Keith aka Le Loup aka Myeengun.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/barry-o-farrell-stop-your-attack-on-law-abiding-firea/sign.html#se