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18TH CENTURY LIVING HISTORY IN AUSTRALIA.
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Sunday, 19 March 2017

Havresack/Snapsack. More Images.

Jacques Lagniet (French, 1620–1672)
Tel fait la faute qu'un autre boit [One makes the mistake, another drinks it]
Etching bound in a collection of proverb etchings published by Lagniet, ca. 1660
Print Collection, Kennedy Fund.



French soldiers near the town of Grey in Franche Comte, during the Dutch War. 1690 after Van Der Meulen.



Sortie de la garnison de Gand, le 12 mars 1678.

By Vernet, 1754.

I have no info on this one but looks to be 17th century.


Travelers By The Well By Andries Booth, 1635-41.


Netherlands. 17th century. War-Scene By Sebastian-Vrancx.


Sebastian Vrancx - Plünderung eines Dorfes. 17th century Netherlands.



I find these images very interesting as they show the snapsack being used in conjunction with a backpack.
A Village Kermesse, Netherlands 17th century By Sebastian Vrancx.

Unknown artist 1745-46

Author's linen snapsack with the strap sewn to the bag at both ends. Closer is achieved using a leather tie.

The snapsack from what I can see in period paintings comes in a variety of sizes and the carry strap can either be sewn to the bag both ends, or it can be attached with some form of tie such as cordage or leather.


Monday, 9 November 2015

Carrying Water in The 18th Century. Glass Bottles.

Carrying Water in The 18th Century. Glass Bottles.
To date I have found no evidence that glass bottles or saddle flasks were ever carried in a leather harness. Leather, wooden & ceramic water bottles with built in loops for straps & cordage are well known, but not so glass bottles. This is not to say that no one ever attached cordage or leather to a glass bottle in order to carry it slung from the shoulder, only that no primary documentation of this has been found to date. 
Glass wine bottles are believed to have been reused as water bottles & for carrying vegetable oil, but I must assume that these were either carried in the hand, or they were carried in a pack such as a knapsack, haversack, snapsack or market wallet. The name “saddle flask” given to a certain type of flat sided glass bottle suggests that it was carried in saddle bags or packs.
Pennsylvania German wooden costrel with strap lugs.

Leather costrels with carry strap lugs dated 1730.

A ceramic water bottle with carry strap lugs, 1601-1700 ad.

18th century wine bottle.

A 16th century glass costrel covered in embossed leather. This one I would have expected to have leather carry strap lugs included, but no sign that I can see. Research continues on this one.

American 18th century leather covered saddle flask.

18th century saddle flask.

18th century leather saddle flask with what appears to be a leather carry strap attached that has been folded & pushed into the spout.


One of two modern glass bottles the author covered in leather to replicate saddle flasks.


The author’s haversack that he may use to carry his two saddle flasks.


The author’s knapsack with his market wallet secured under the flap closure. A water bottle or flask could also be carried in this market wallet & one in the knapsack, but they would not be easily accessible on the trail.


The author’s snapsack. If the top were to be left untied, then this too would be a good way to carry water bottles or flasks.




Early American glass. The first factory in what is now the United States was a glass plant built at Jamestown, Virginia, in 1608. The venture failed within a year because of a famine that took the lives of many colonists. The Jamestown colonists tried glass making again in 1621, but an Indian attack in 1622 and the scarcity of workers ended this attempt in 1624. The industry was re-established in America in 1739, when Caspar Wistar built a glass making plant in what is now Salem County, New Jersey. This plant operated until 1780. http://www.texasglass.com/glass_facts/history_of_Glass.htm





Saturday, 23 August 2014

Load Carrying Methods For Women.

Any pack or bag method used by men can also be used by women, but here are some images specifically of women carrying baggage.
Cordage and knots. 16th century.

Daniel Chodowieki 1764
ERHARD SCHOEN . LANSQUENET AND WIFE, C. 1535
French, 18th century.
Woman with large market wallet.
Author's medium sized market wallet made from linen cloth.
Oyster Seller using a pack basket, 18th century.
16th century camp follower.
Jacobites by Paul Sandby 1760.
A wood carrier using a pack frame.
Woman with pack basket. Attr. Basilius Grundmann 1726-1798.








Friday, 25 July 2014

Snapsack or Havresac? More Research.

Snapsack or Havresac? More Research.
I thought I had it all worked out, I thought I knew the difference between a haversack & a snapsack, but take a close look at the image below, & you will se the word havresac written on what we have come to know as a snapsack or sausage bag.


Another name for a Haversack is scrip, but now I have to wonder if the term “scrip” was originally used for the sausage bag. It also seems that there is more than one type of snapsack, the other being a bag which attaches at the waist on a person’s side but is much larger than a pouch. See the image below.



The term “Havresac Double” also appears on this back pack from Diderot. See below.

So could the bag below also be a Double Havresac?

This pack below also appears to have the same strap attachment at the top, but, the lower strap seems to simply go round the pack & is not attached. If this is the case then this should probably be correctly termed as a "Pack".

This image below is my Haversack, but I am now thinking that this version is a later version. If the terms "snapsack" and "haversack" are interchangeable, then this would make more sense.

The term haversac or habersac or haversack go way back before the 16th century, and refer to a bag that carried horse feed. Later it was to carry food for people. But I had always assumed that this term applied to the bag shown above. But if in fact it refered to the sausage bag, or what we now call a snapsack, then it would lend more credence to what someone recently called "a double snapsack". Could this also refer to information stating that haversacks were sometimes altered to be used as a knapsack?

This could get or has now got slightly confusing, because some historians think that the term knapsack developed from the term snapsack. Clearly the knapsack as we know it, is different from the sausage bag, but then when you look at Diderot's sketch of a double haversack (below) compared with my knapsack (below), you can see the similarities.

So in conclusion, perhaps we should stop using the term snapsack, & start using the term haversack for both single & double strap types, making sure to call the double strap version a double. It may be difficult to determine when the actual change in shape took place, because clearly the rectangle and square types of haversack were in use earlier than the mid 18th century, and were perhaps at that time referred to as a "scrip". Time, place and language obviously play their part in the history of these bags, so perhaps we should not concern ourselves too much with which is which, rather than accept the fact that all were used in the early to mid 18th century.
Keith.
Ferdinand Kobell, travellers with a knapsack 18th century.
François Boucher  1753.
Jacques Callot, Beggar  1648.
1672-1708 BEAR LEADER
Beggar-on-his-crutches-from-behind-Jacques Callot 17thc

Further Reading: The 17th Century Snapsack By Al Saguto. PDF.
http://webpages.charter.net/apples/costume/snapsack-Saguto.pdf