To register guns NOW, I have to take them to a dealer. The dealer has to accept these guns into his stock in order to register them. Then I have to apply for a "Permit to acquire a firearm" in order to get my own guns back again! BUT, (a) two of these guns are not complete, and (2) I am not supposed to require a "Permit to acquire a firearm" if it is an antique!!!
So it looks like I might lose these antiques just because no one in firearms registry or the local police service no what they are talking about. These guns were left to me by two of my dearest late close friends, with the request that I look after them and keep them in the family. The problems as I see it are (1) the dealer may not be able to register them as two are incomplete, and (2) I will have trouble getting them back if they do register them because I am not supposed to require a "Permit to acquire a firearm" if it is an antique. I simply just can't win.
If it were not for the fact that these guns mean so much to me I would smash them with a sledge hammer and deliver the bits to Armidale Police Station!
A Belgium Trade barrel with a snail drum integral to the breech plug.
The W. Hollis breech.How anyone can confuse these with a modern breech loader I really do not know. I can't even imagine a police officer being allowed to do firearms inspections without some basic knowledge of firearms in general.
Antique Firearms in Question.
1. 15 gauge muzzle-loading double barrel W. Hollis percussion shot gun. Serial number 4027. (Not complete and not able to be used).
2. 44 gauge Belgium smoothbore single barrel percussion muzzle-loading shot gun. No maker’s name visible. Serial Number 0218. (Barrel only).This has a 19th century snail drum but no nipple.
3. 14 gauge smoothbore single barrel percussion Muzzle-loading shotgun. Maker: Samuel Marson and Company Birmingham. Serial Number 3702.
All three guns are pre 1900ad.
Keith H. Burgess
Wychwood Forest, MSF 2007, Armidale NSW 2350.
To: The Commissioner Of Police NSW.
Yesterday I had a firearms inspection. The officer attending did not know the content of the present gun legislation or the updates. He was not sure what the difference was between a muzzle-loading gun & a breech loading gun, & said he thought that my three antique muzzle-loading guns needed registering.
I have received no help from firearms registry, they say these guns should not be registered unless necessary. I can’t find anyone in the area who can identify these guns for me. The one gunsmith that is supposed to live in Arding somewhere is unlisted & I can’t contact him.
I decided that I would get these antiques registered to save me the trouble, I live out of town & am not mobile at present due to a recent hip replacement. Firearms registry tell me that I must take these guns to a dealer to get them registered, & then, I must apply for a “Permit To Acquire” a firearm, even though the legislation clearly sais that I do not need to have a permit to acquire an antique gun made before 1900.
This surely is total madness! No where in the legislation have I read that I need to find someone to authenticate my antique firearms, to anyone with an ounce of common sense it is perfectly obvious what they are. I do not wish to use these guns, I do not wish to fire these guns. They were family possessions of two dear close friends of mine who left them to me with the express wishes that I look after them & pass them on in my family. If this were not the case I swear I would destroy them & take the pieces to the police station.
Parts of the legislation are open to interpretation.. On top of this we have police officers who know very little of the firearms legislation or about firearms. This is going to cost me time & money, in deed it already has because I have had to spend today researching & copying the legislation so I can better understand what the problem is.
The main problem with this legislation is that it states there is a difference between an antique muzzle-loading gun and that of a post 1900 muzzle-loading gun, which of course there is not! Both are muzzle-loading, both require black powder. The flintlock still requires a piece of flint for ignition. If this had not been written into the legislation I could simply have either had all my muzzle-loading guns registered earlier without having to go to a dealer, OR none of them would require registering, which would have been more sensible.
I fear that somehow no matter what I do now it is not going to be easy. Two of these antique guns are incomplete & not usable. I think that (a) I will have trouble registering them, and (b) I am going to have trouble acquiring a permit to acquire in order to get my guns back if the dealer is willing to register them.
If you can think of any solution to this problem I would appreciate your assistance in this matter.
Sincerely, Keith H. Burgess.
Sincerely, Keith H. Burgess.
Member: NECLHG. ALHF. ARLHO.LHA.